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Juliette Wade

Juliette is an author and linguist who speaks several languages.


11/30/09 18:38:41 Opening "Chat Log 11-30-09"

PHeeren: My parents pressure me to self-publish but I am reluctant to pursue this
W2PSushi: Tom, we do tend to look down on that, but sometimes it can lead to a breakthrough
JulietteAllayo: Well, but often self-publishing is a dead end.
W2PSushi: At least with Lulu and such, it doesn't cost much if anything
JulietteAllayo: Certainly it will make other authors more cautious of your qualifications.
JulietteAllayo: Let me just say that it's not the direction I would go. Unless you have a PR juggernaut behind you for free, it's likely to cost you much more money than you earn.
PHeeren: Oh
Mallie1025: Hi guys
TheWordSlayer1: Evening
JOYFULWRITER99: Hi, Paul, Cue, Micki, Tom
JOYFULWRITER99: Hi, Word
TheWordSlayer1: If I turn the volume on my laptop to Max..will it make it easier to hear the guest Speaker?
W2PSushi: I've got a log running. At first it wouldn't record
W2PSushi: LOL
TheWordSlayer1: Evening, Dale
Deluge7: Hi Don. How are you?
JulietteAllayo: Wow, lots of folks here.
TheWordSlayer1: Doing good :-)
JulietteAllayo: Hello, everyone!
TheWordSlayer1: Evening Juliette :-)
JulietteAllayo: Hi there
JulietteAllayo: Just getting myself arranged.
JulietteAllayo: I was getting dinner on for my family; my son's not feeling well
Mallie1025: Hi Juliette--take your time
JulietteAllayo: But Dad's home now and all is taken care of. I'm happy to be here.
Mallie1025: We're happy to have you here
PhilaWriter: We're glad to have you!
TheWordSlayer1: Were very glad to have you :-)
JulietteAllayo: Thanks
Mallie1025: We've heard a lot of good things about you
JulietteAllayo: I'd talked with Paul about what to discuss, but I'm open to questions. I've chatted here before, so I'm not sure if everyone here knows me or if I need to explain
SaWeb22: Thanks Micki
JulietteAllayo: Wow, I guess Paul started to cover that
Mallie1025: I remember your name
JulietteAllayo: Well, the places I'm most active on the web are on my blog, http://talktoyouniverse.blogspot.com , and at Absolute Write and the Analog Forum.
MontanaDan19: I've read some of your blog over at TalkToYoUniverse. Very good stuff.
JulietteAllayo: Well, thank you!
JulietteAllayo: I've had two stories published now, both in Analog
JulietteAllayo: Actually my alias here comes from the first one (Allayo)
JoSiPhInE1: Hi Paul and everyone
JulietteAllayo: My expertise is in anthropology and linguistics and how they apply to science fiction and fantasy.
Mallie1025: Very impressive blogspot!
JulietteAllayo: I'm not sure what you all want to chat about, but I can take general questions; I'd also thought about talking a little about the problem of info dumping.
JulietteAllayo: Thanks Mallie
Deluge7: Go ahead. I am constantly accused of info dumping.
Mallie1025: Info dumping is good--we all tend to do it and not always recognize it
JulietteAllayo: OK cool
Mallie1025: Well Dale? lol
W2PSushi: Our guest needs no introduction.
JulietteAllayo: Oh, there you are, Paul
JulietteAllayo: I was introducing myself
JOYFULWRITER99: Nice to meet you, Juliette
JulietteAllayo: Nice to meet you too
MontanaDan19: I liked your tricks how to get away with it, and the not so good ways to get away with it
SaWeb22: Please continue, so us poor humanoids will know who you are.
W2PSushi: Hi Snappy
K Snappy 21: Hi
JulietteAllayo: Ah, well, MontanaDan has clearly already read my recent posts on the topic of info dumping.
JulietteAllayo: Saweb, are you asking about me?
MontanaDan19: In sci/fi fantasy, you DO have to do some info dumping
JulietteAllayo: I did introduce myself upthread, but to recap, I have two stories published in Analog magazine and a blog
SaWeb22: No just wanted you to continue introducing yourself a little more
JulietteAllayo: Oh, I see.
JulietteAllayo: My background is actually in academia.
JulietteAllayo: So all my linguistics and anthropology stuff comes from a great deal of time getting degrees in the topic.
W2PSushi: Also, Juliette recently got an agent
JulietteAllayo: Oh yeah
SaWeb22: BTW Paul / Juliette When will ANALOG finally move into the future and become "DIGITAL"
JulietteAllayo: Well, it does have an electronic version
W2PSushi: But they only take printed submissions. Hey, it's up to the editor
SaWeb22: Juliette, I can be quite literal in my remarks
Mallie1025: Congrats on the agent, Juliette
JOYFULWRITER99: Juliette, how did you get an agent?
MontanaDan19: You have a book you're soliciting, Juliette?
JulietteAllayo: I think one of my favorite things to study was discourse analysis, which was basically about how to take what people say, transcribe and analyze it piece by piece to see how people create the effects they do.
JoSiPhInE1: Congrats to you Juliette
JulietteAllayo: OK about my agent
JulietteAllayo: I really got an agent through connections.
JulietteAllayo: People in the sf/f community have been very kind to me.
JulietteAllayo: I went to a local convention, where I was told to go to their writers' workshop...
JulietteAllayo: So the following year I sent a submission to the writers' workshop, and was on a panel with three aspiring writers and three "pros."
JulietteAllayo: After the session I mentioned to one of the pros that I was looking for a face to face critique group, and a couple of days later I got an email from one of the other pros saying he'd really liked my work and would I like to join his group
JulietteAllayo: I accepted after spending 24 hours doing a happy dance
JulietteAllayo: So I worked with that group for a while, all of them pretty much pro or semi-pro.
JulietteAllayo: The fellow who invited me in spoke with the people at the convention where I'd met him and got me on programming.
JulietteAllayo: BTW his name is Dario Ciriello. Great guy.
JulietteAllayo: So I ended up on a random panel about the seven wonders of the world, where I hit it off with Deborah J. Ross, who writes the Darkover series with the late Marion Zimmer Bradley.
W2PSushi: (Agreed. I've met Dario a couple of times.)
JulietteAllayo: She then introduced me at another convention to Sheila Finch, author of The Guild of Xenolinguists - because of our common interests, obviously
JulietteAllayo: Sheila was the one who suggested I send linguistics related stories to Stan Schmidt at Analog
JulietteAllayo: Then at the same convention where I met Sheila, I met another lovely author named Lillian Csernica
JulietteAllayo: Paul probably doesn't know her because she's on the fantasy side
JulietteAllayo: Anyway, she really liked my stuff and offered to look at a fantasy novel I was rewriting
JulietteAllayo: She loved it so much she said she'd like to introduce me to her agent.
JulietteAllayo: Oddly enough, that wasn't how I connected with her agent, though
JulietteAllayo: I ran into her at the Nebula Awards, where I'd been invited to meet Stan Schmidt
JOYFULWRITER99: WOW
JulietteAllayo: But since Lillian had mentioned her, I got up my courage and walked up and pitched her.
JulietteAllayo: Well, it wasn't like I was invited specifically to meet Stan Schmidt - quite.
W2PSushi: Hi Patty
JOYFULWRITER99: I would have been so nervous!
JulietteAllayo: I could barely think straight
Pattyapplet: Hi WP
JulietteAllayo: But I'd practiced my pitch a lot by then
JulietteAllayo: We ended up talking for 10 minutes and she asked for a full.
JOYFULWRITER99: coool
W2PSushi: I know Lillian from SiliCon, and now via Facebook
JulietteAllayo: Oh cool
JulietteAllayo: I sent it to her much later, in September (Nebulas were in April)
JulietteAllayo: Then the agency ended up calling me to "make sure I didn't go with another agency before they could finish reading it."
W2PSushi: Yeah!
Mallie1025: Wow--that's a long round about way to get an agent. lol
JulietteAllayo: That put me in quite a state for about a month.
JulietteAllayo: Finally I met the agents at World Fantasy Convention and signed.
JulietteAllayo: Yes, it was extremely roundabout
JulietteAllayo: There are many different ways to get an agent
JulietteAllayo: Mine was the networking way
PhilaWriter: When and where is the World Fantasy Convention held?
JulietteAllayo: Depends. This year it was in San Jose, CA
JulietteAllayo: It's definitely a convention for writers.
W2PSushi: Juliette provided some moral support -- sat in the front row when I spoke on a panel there.
JulietteAllayo: Tis true.
JulietteAllayo: My experience can be contrasted with my friend Janice's - she got an agent by attending a conference and pitching her cold
SaWeb22: That's what I call coming in from the side door. Regardless of the genre it all comes down to three little words. CONNECTIONS, CONNECTIONS, CONNECTIONS
JulietteAllayo: You should see Paul's face light up when he talks about Westerns
W2PSushi: Shore nuff pardner
JulietteAllayo: You just have to try any way you can.
MontanaDan19: What if you aren't a 'people person?'
JulietteAllayo: I should also say that Janice had no previous publications, whereas another friend of mine had a bunch of pubs in various venues, and ended up getting an offer from a publisher and getting her agent after that.
JulietteAllayo: Well, so what I've been saying is there's always the query direction.
JulietteAllayo: Or the conference direction.
JulietteAllayo: Or the "build up a record of short stories" direction
JulietteAllayo: The agency I'm with is The Grayson Agency.
JulietteAllayo: I got lucky because they don't take unsolicited subs from unpublished writers, so networking was really the only way I could have contacted them.
JulietteAllayo: The novel is called "Through This Gate," and it's what I gigglingly call "linguistic fantasy."
JOYFULWRITER99: When is it due out?
JulietteAllayo: It hasn't sold yet
Mallie1025: Those were big words Saul!!
JOYFULWRITER99: It will though.
JulietteAllayo: It's on submission with editors right now.
JulietteAllayo: Yes, I believe it will. My agent is very excited about it.
JoSiPhInE1: That's great Juliette
JulietteAllayo: It doesn't feel real at the moment, really
Mallie1025: Juliette, describe linguistic fantasy
JulietteAllayo: Well, the story is about a girl going off to college who discovers her roommate reading a magic book - but since they're in the real world, neither one is really considering that it could be magic
JulietteAllayo: The linguistic angle comes from the fact that the book isn't a portal. The world inside it is literally made out of the words of the book.
SaWeb22: Juliette is, "Through this gate" the story of how you got in being unsolicited?
Mallie1025: Juliette, how long does the agent think it will take for the publisher to get back to you?
JulietteAllayo: So that influences all of the world rules.
JulietteAllayo: Well, he told me it would take anywhere from three days to three weeks to hear whether they wanted to see a submission
Mallie1025: The book sounds like a good concept---let me know when it's published.
JulietteAllayo: But once they have a hold of the manuscript, it's anybody's guess.
JulietteAllayo: Thanks, Mallie, I'll do that.
JulietteAllayo: Editors are busy folk with lots of reading to do
JOYFULWRITER99: I want to know too.
TheWordSlayer1: Wow, Juliette. Just the thought of a world made out of words kinda blows my minds, that should make for a very interesting read. :-)
JulietteAllayo: Well, how about I tell Paul and either he can pass it on, or I can visit again
JulietteAllayo: Thanks, WordSlayer.
Mallie1025: Sure, whatever works best
JulietteAllayo: The key phrase that perked up people's ears in the pitch was, "literally created from the delusional writings of a Japanese madwoman from the 11th century."
Mallie1025: Wow
TheWordSlayer1: Heh, I love it!
JulietteAllayo: Nobody pitches that, so it got attention.
JulietteAllayo: Hee hee
Mallie1025: I can see why. lol
JulietteAllayo: But interestingly, I only got one request for a full.
JulietteAllayo: Lucky me, my agent really got it.
Mallie1025: And I was just saying that fantasy has been boring of late. lol
JulietteAllayo: Otherwise I could have been doing cold queries again.
W2PSushi: : :: crossed fingers : ::
JulietteAllayo: Yeah, I'm hoping.
Mallie1025: Crossed here too--I want to read this
JulietteAllayo: I'm hoping to reach exactly the "fantasy has been boring" crowd.
TheWordSlayer1: It's a done deal, they don't want a Japanese madwoman coming to haunt them in their sleep. :-)
JulietteAllayo: lol
Mallie1025: I hate the thought of subbing to a big house and then waiting in limbo a year or more for an answer
W2PSushi: I like to come up with unique ideas - and they end up being too strange
JulietteAllayo: Yeah, the waiting really is hard
Mallie1025: Haha Word
SaWeb22: Writing is a waiting game.
JulietteAllayo: Paul, one of the things that makes this story accessible is that it uses lots of things people are familiar with in one way or another, it just recombines them in a really different way
Mallie1025: Paul, I don't think your ideas are strange--you write for a strange genre
W2PSushi: I am learning
SaWeb22: First the query letter, next a few chapters and finally the entire package
JulietteAllayo: We know magic books; we know magic pens, but with this magic book, a writer who reads it appears with a magic pen that can change reality like a magic wand, because it can change the words of the book
JulietteAllayo: Science fiction is a great genre.
SaWeb22: Each one requires a waiting period, It's especially rough when you can only submit to one place at a time
JulietteAllayo: True
W2PSushi: A truck in a fantasy realm; arranged marriages in modern America, not much of that in any genre
JulietteAllayo: But most agents will expect that you're querying widely
W2PSushi: Time to buy a couple rolls of stamps!
Mallie1025: You're going to laugh but my 11 yr old grandson wrote a sci-fi with a book that wrote words as the person thought them
SaWeb22: Sound a little bit like the NEVERENDING STORY,,,
JulietteAllayo: You just need to be very professional and up-front once you get to the point where you're submitting partials
JulietteAllayo: Neverending Story is cool. Not much like my book though
Mallie1025: Very cool--I never tire of it
W2PSushi: Bastian!
Mallie1025: Which is apropos. lol
SaWeb22: The story develops as the book is read
JulietteAllayo: My agent says that my book is a bit like "Sophie's World" by Jostein Gaarder, and a little bit like "If on a winter's night a traveler" by Italo Calvino, and it's also a YA adventure.
W2PSushi: I think SF/F people always make comparisons. This is actually a good thing
W2PSushi: Hi AW
AWalradt: Hello, all.
JulietteAllayo: Hi there!
JulietteAllayo: I was thinking about world rules - if you want I could talk about world rules in my book
W2PSushi: Please do
TheWordSlayer1: Yes please
MontanaDan19: I thought your character was in college?
CharMaclay: Hi Sushi, room......
JulietteAllayo: Mwahaha
JulietteAllayo: My character is in college. When she's in college, the narrative is her journal
SaWeb22: Hate to run....Writing a short story for a paranormal romance contest.
JulietteAllayo: Good luck with that!
JulietteAllayo: But every time she picks up the book and reads it, you get the narrative inside the world of the book.
TheWordSlayer1: Yeah, good luck :-)
MontanaDan19: Not really YA then
JulietteAllayo: I'm not sure what you mean, MontanaDan
JulietteAllayo: Oh, her age?
W2PSushi: Almost by definition, YA has a protagonist in high school or middle school
JulietteAllayo: She's just leaving home to go to college for the first time.
W2PSushi: Ah
MontanaDan19: Right, Paul
JulietteAllayo: So she's really a high schooler dealing with an unfamiliar environment
MontanaDan19: Leaving home to got to college isn't high school. lol
W2PSushi: A Coming of Age story, then
JulietteAllayo: The timeframe is about her first three weeks of college. Something like that
W2PSushi: (I'm obsessive about genres, as you guys well know)
W2PSushi: Anyway, please go on
JulietteAllayo: I see your point, MontanaDan, but the voice is another defining characteristic of YA, and this has that.
MontanaDan19: Sorry, just clarifying.
JulietteAllayo: My agent calls it YA; I wrote it as crossover YA/adult, but I'm letting him do the marketing.
JulietteAllayo: No problem at all.
MontanaDan19: My daughter is a voracious reader of fantasy, and most of the characters are younger than 18
JulietteAllayo: Inside the book world, the only limitation is the imagination of your time.
JulietteAllayo: There are several writer/sorcerers from different time periods, but their magic follows the form of the metaphors in which they think about it.
JulietteAllayo: I'm a big proponent of never stopping out of the flow of your ongoing conflict to "explain" stuff
JulietteAllayo: I always try to place people in situations that will make the characteristics of their world evident through conflict.
JulietteAllayo: Hello Satin
Satin Puzzle: Hello, Juliette
JulietteAllayo: SF/F has a lot of information that has to be dispensed early. World info.
JulietteAllayo: So picking the right vocabulary can be really important.
JulietteAllayo: Trying for example to find a historically or contextually loaded word instead of just a generic one, to place the context.
JulietteAllayo: This works even for far future sf
Satin Puzzle: Glad to hear you say that, Juliette
W2PSushi: OK Micki
JulietteAllayo: One of the big hints that "you're in the future" is the presence of concatenated words, or blended words, to hint at things we aren't familiar with but give them elements of things we are.
JulietteAllayo: One important thing to think about is whether you want your reader to feel at home, or to feel alienated.
Mallie1025: It's a fascinating genre-love to read it and have attempted a few shorts in that genre
JulietteAllayo: So say you've got a scenario with a human going into an alien context, and feeling very confused by all the alien stuff going on. In that case, using more created alien words is ok
Satin Puzzle: I don't care for having to look up words in a glossary, specific to a novel, to "get it."
JulietteAllayo: But if you're writing from an alien point of view, then in that portion of the story, you should actually use fewer alien words.
JulietteAllayo: If you want people to feel at home, you have to take the time to teach them the alien words that are important. And not use them anywhere else.
JulietteAllayo: My most recent Analog story was entirely in alien point of view.
JulietteAllayo: I developed the language, but then used that to design the few words I used, so that they'd sound right
JulietteAllayo: The rest of it was taking the language as I imagined it, and using it to change how I used English.
JulietteAllayo: Much in the way that a language learner's English use will be influenced by the structure of their native language.
JulietteAllayo: Then I ran it by a bunch of people and when they said it wasn't comprehensible, I did a complete rewrite to tone it down
JulietteAllayo: I'm flexible
Satin Puzzle: lol
JulietteAllayo: At least it was the English that wasn't comprehensible.
Mallie1025: Good thing. :-)
JulietteAllayo: I don't expect my readers to learn an alien language; I just want them to get a feel for the story
JulietteAllayo: In the end I tried to keep the evidence of the alien language as simple as possible
W2PSushi: I will attest, the story does that quite well
MontanaDan19: You just need to sprinkle it to make it effective
JulietteAllayo: So it was clearly marked, but at the same time, very much like the English you'd use to tell the story
Mallie1025: Kind of like using strong dialect but not overpowering or constant?
JulietteAllayo: Sure.
JulietteAllayo: My character would say things like "Parker shows embarrassed," instead of "Parker looks embarrassed"
JulietteAllayo: And he'd use metaphors he understood, like "If Parker scents true, this officer Hada could ruin my hunt before its final pace."
Mallie1025: I see--sounds like NCIS, where the Israeli agent mixes up or idioms and slang
JulietteAllayo: I should remark he's very canine
Mallie1025: Works really well
JulietteAllayo: Well, we all speak in metaphorical terms.
W2PSushi: I like the doubled words. "Hark hark!" and "bite bite" and more
Mallie1025: This book sounds better and better!!
JulietteAllayo: Generally, we take new things and compare them back to things with which we're familiar.
JulietteAllayo: Well, this isn't the book; it's my novelette from Analog
W2PSushi: Shows their importance to the alien speaker
Mallie1025: Is it on the site to read?
JulietteAllayo: Paul is talking about the fact that my canine folk had two dialects.
W2PSushi: The story "Cold Words" from a recent Analog
Mallie1025: I see
JulietteAllayo: One sounded basically normal. The other was marked by doubled words at the beginning of each idea.
W2PSushi: Ah yes, the Cold Speech, yes?
JulietteAllayo: The Cold Words, thus the title of the story
W2PSushi: Yes
JulietteAllayo: So say for example that you wanted to issue an order in the cold words.
JulietteAllayo: The order would be prefaced by a pair of words marking it as an order.
JulietteAllayo: ex. "Bow-bow! Belly down! Hold still, Councilor or you die!"
MontanaDan19: Well I have to go. Nice chatting with you. Good luck with the agent. Night all
JulietteAllayo: Thanks, MontanaDan.
W2PSushi: G'nite MD
Satin Puzzle: Did you also deal with body language?
JulietteAllayo: Yes, quite a bit.
JulietteAllayo: Rulii's body language was all canine, which required a bit of research
JulietteAllayo: And he was always observing things about the humans' body language.
JulietteAllayo: ex. "Hand-showing, a human submission move."
Mallie1025: Always sniffing around? lol
JulietteAllayo: Indeed. I did avoid that aspect of dog communication, though.
Mallie1025: Haha
JulietteAllayo: These guys were partially bipedal
Satin Puzzle: Will you turn this into a novel?
JulietteAllayo: Only if someone asks me to.
PhilaWriter: Have a great week, everybody. Juliette thanks for coming
Satin Puzzle: I remember Enemy Mine....in...was it Asimov's?
JulietteAllayo: It's not an easy prose style to write in; sometimes it took me an hour just to get in the head space.
JulietteAllayo: Thanks, PhilaWriter
Mallie1025: Gee, only of someone asks? :-)
JOYFULWRITER99: Good night all
JulietteAllayo: Well, I have a long list of stuff I have to write, and not much time.
Satin Puzzle: Ah yes
JulietteAllayo: I owe Stan Schmidt another story, which I'm currently working on
W2PSushi: Barry Longyear wrote Enemy Mine, and he's still quite prolific
Mallie1025: Yes, I have much to do on the pc before bed--but I loved having you here
JulietteAllayo: I'm doing a joint project with Sheila Finch
JulietteAllayo: Thanks, Mallie
Mallie1025: Night guys and stay well
W2PSushi: Longyear has had two very different stories in Analog recently
Satin Puzzle: I was so impressed with that story, Sushi
JulietteAllayo: I have another whole world that I want to write a novel in, because I have four novels at least partially written in that context
W2PSushi: There's a pretty good movie version too
Satin Puzzle: I suppose I should restart subscriptions
JulietteAllayo: And of course my kids are 4 and 6 and I work at home.
W2PSushi: Keep us posted, Juliette
JulietteAllayo: I will
JulietteAllayo: Wow, time flies
JulietteAllayo: Sometimes I don't even have time to read my Analogs, which is really embarrassing
W2PSushi: The hour has indeed flown
JulietteAllayo: I do my best
TheWordSlayer1: Thanks Juliette, very enjoyable and informative session :-)
Satin Puzzle: Thanks for letting me know, Sushi....and Juliette...how nice of you to come talk to us...
W2PSushi: I'm barely started in my current issue
JulietteAllayo: Well, thanks.
W2PSushi: I feel obligated, especially since I've gotten to know many of the authors
JulietteAllayo: It was a pleasure. Good to see you, WordSlayer and Satin
Satin Puzzle: I wrote an SF/F story that got published and was...soooooo bad...I know the feeling
JulietteAllayo: Yes, indeed. I do too.
JulietteAllayo: I'm currently just hoping that my story intended for Stan doesn't suck
JulietteAllayo: lol
W2PSushi: It'll be good
JulietteAllayo: : : : crossing fingers : : :
JulietteAllayo: But it involves otters, which I just love.
Satin Puzzle: I doubt it'll suck...seems you put your all into your work.
TheWordSlayer1: Yep, if it sucked you wouldn't send it in, or at the least couldn't stand to re read it. :-)
JulietteAllayo: Now that's a good observation, WS, very true
JulietteAllayo: In my case, couldn't stand to finish it.
JulietteAllayo: I wrote half and then stopped and redid the whole thing.
JulietteAllayo: This time I think I'll make it to the end.
Satin Puzzle: Hi Chuck
W2PSushi: HI there Shake
TheWordSlayer1: I don't know much about genres, but I know a good read. :-)
LeShake: Hey Paul. How goes it.
JulietteAllayo: Hello, Monsieur LeShake
W2PSushi: Sorry for the late notice, we are about to wrap things up
JulietteAllayo: Indeed
LeShake: LOL, Juliette, hello back at you.
JulietteAllayo: I have to run back and check up on kiddos
Satin Puzzle: I should put you on my list of who to visit, Sushi
JulietteAllayo: Sorry I don't have more time to talk
JulietteAllayo: I encourage you all to visit my blog, of course.
LeShake: Paul, your meeting nights are Mondays?
W2PSushi: Wait until your kids are in high school
Satin Puzzle: Thanks again, Juliette
JulietteAllayo: Here's the link again: http://talktoyouniverse.blogspot.com
W2PSushi: You will put aside concerns like, where are they?
JulietteAllayo: Well, Paul, at least then they'll spend their entire day *in* high school
JulietteAllayo: Thanks everyone. I'll be signing out now and letting you guys wrap up.
JulietteAllayo: I enjoyed my visit very much.
Satin Puzzle: Mine are in college....I see no difference from high school..lol
W2PSushi: Thanks, Juliette
JulietteAllayo: Thanks again, Paul. Good night!
TheWordSlayer1: have a wonderful evening Juliette
W2PSushi: Especially for appearing on short notice
JulietteAllayo: Thanks guys
JulietteAllayo: OK, good night!
Satin Puzzle: Some very famous people mentored us
LeShake: Hey, I'll be here next time, Paul. Later all.
Satin Puzzle: I saved some of their advice
Satin Puzzle: I assume it's all gone now?
W2PSushi: Do not know
W2PSushi: We post all of these guest sessions on our web site
W2PSushi: More than 50 by now
Satin Puzzle: Good....where is that?
Satin Puzzle: I thought you were just doing crits...not correct?
W2PSushi: Mostly critiques
TheWordSlayer1: Way back when I submitted to a group, all of the members sent me a virus to uninstall my word processor. I think they didn't like my submissions and were sending me a hint
W2PSushi: Fewer contests but some, plus guests
Satin Puzzle: LOL WS
W2PSushi: http://www.cuebon.com/ewriters/index.html
W2PSushi: Archive section
Satin Puzzle: I submitted, but some didn't want to read it...I'm not flowery..lol
Satin Puzzle: Got it. thank you
W2PSushi: Got over 1600 page views to our genres project this month
W2PSushi: Just wish that brought in some $$$ too
Satin Puzzle: My next effort will be science fiction.
W2PSushi: I like it!
Satin Puzzle: I've had to study quantum theories. lol
TheWordSlayer1: What is genres project Paul?
W2PSushi: http://www.cuebon.com/ewriters/genres.html
W2PSushi: Best in the world! Google puts it right up top
TheWordSlayer1: I miss Jax and a few of the other old members I used to chat with
Satin Puzzle: I didn't chat much...mostly read what others said. lol
Satin Puzzle: Fast paced and smart. I was learning
W2PSushi: Have not talked to Jax in ages. One time I met her family, up in Nevada
TheWordSlayer1: cool :-)
Satin Puzzle: Well, off to eat ice cream and do some more work. Thanks again. Enjoyed.
W2PSushi: Thanks, everyone. Great session


11/30/09 20:23:17 Closing "Chat Log 11-30-09"


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